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      #1801839098 - 07/12/06 11:57 PM

Simply staying awake is now just too big an ask? And this is not some small-town hickville district-court magistrate, but the JUDGE PRESIDENT of KZN! There's affirmative-inaction for you, hey?

I was not dozing, says judge
07/12/2006



Pietermaritzburg - KwaZulu-Natal Judge-President Vuka Tshabalala dismissed allegations in Pietermaritzburg High Court on Thursday that he fell asleep during a major criminal trial.

Tshabalala was rejecting an application for leave to appeal by Russel Ngubo, a former prison boss and an African National Congress chairperson.

Ngubo was jailed for 25 years in July last year for the murder of Inkatha Freedom Party leader Nash Ngubane in the Impendhle area and other crimes.

His co-accused and other applicants were: Thamsanqa Memela, a former senior prisons official jailed for 25 years; and Velaphi Khumalo, ex-policeman Thulani Xaba, Zwelihle Dlamini and Dumisani Mshengu, all jailed for 18 years each.

'I even heard his snoring'

In an affidavit Ngubo said: "During... the trial I noticed that the presiding judge (Tshabalala), had fallen asleep on a number of occasions. I was concerned and upset by this.

"I noticed his eyes were closed and that his head was leaning very far back.

"I even heard his snoring on occasion. Sometimes he had a pen in his mouth and when he fell asleep the pen would drop out, (and) this would cause him to wake up.

"On the first occasion... I raised this with my advocate, Gareth Leppan, who said if this happened again he would bring an application for the recusal of the judge... my co-accused and I noticed he was falling asleep again.

"Hence Leppan brought the application as instructed by us.

"The judge heard the application, but dismissed it," said Ngubo.

"I do not think that I had a fair trial as a result of the judge sleeping in court."

Ngubo's counsel, advocate Kobus Booyens SC, said there was also a reasonable possibility that accomplice witnesses were not telling the truth and the accused should have had the benefit of the doubt.

'Application was frivolous'

Opposing the application, State advocate Anton Steynberg said that in the absence of any allegation that the judge was actually asleep, the applicants failed to show that a failure of justice resulted.

Steynberg said the application was "an abuse of process" which would lead to an appeal with no prospect of success, alternatively that it was "frivolous or absurd, alternatively not made in good faith".

The judge said the cross-examination by Leppan was tedious and long and the application was frivolous and not made in good faith.


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      #1801839844 - 09/12/06 12:20 AM

Hmmm... nobody's alarmed when affirmative-action judge-presidents fall asleep on the job? Settling in to afrocentricity, then?

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      #1801839846 - 09/12/06 12:45 AM

Well, when nobody is concerned by the JP of the Cape High Court calling an advocate a piece of white sh1t and telling him to F off to Europe, sleeping is nothing.

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      #1801839850 - 09/12/06 01:03 AM

That's true.

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      #1801839856 - 09/12/06 02:14 AM

Low to no standards seem to be the norm in The New (but hopelessly unimproved) South Africa. According to the Sowetan newspaper, only one child from a total of 650 from grades 7 to 11 passed the final examinations at the Kgononyane High School.

Bet you there are a lot of wage pullers at the high school, but not much actual teaching going on. But that's what you get when you throw a bunch of useless, irresponsible filth together. If this was corporate, the business would have gone bust ages ago, but when the tax payers keep on coughing up, the creeping rot spreads and there's no motivation to improve.

This is the very reason the municipalities are in such a financial mess. You put scum in charge of adult jobs, and this is what you get.


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      #1801839870 - 09/12/06 07:47 AM

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Simply staying awake is now just too big an ask? And this is not some small-town hickville district-court magistrate, but the JUDGE PRESIDENT of KZN! There's affirmative-inaction for you, hey?

I was not dozing, says judge
07/12/2006



Pietermaritzburg - KwaZulu-Natal Judge-President Vuka Tshabalala dismissed allegations in Pietermaritzburg High Court on Thursday that he fell asleep during a major criminal trial.

Tshabalala was rejecting an application for leave to appeal by Russel Ngubo, a former prison boss and an African National Congress chairperson.

Ngubo was jailed for 25 years in July last year for the murder of Inkatha Freedom Party leader Nash Ngubane in the Impendhle area and other crimes.

His co-accused and other applicants were: Thamsanqa Memela, a former senior prisons official jailed for 25 years; and Velaphi Khumalo, ex-policeman Thulani Xaba, Zwelihle Dlamini and Dumisani Mshengu, all jailed for 18 years each.

'I even heard his snoring'

In an affidavit Ngubo said: "During... the trial I noticed that the presiding judge (Tshabalala), had fallen asleep on a number of occasions. I was concerned and upset by this.

"I noticed his eyes were closed and that his head was leaning very far back.

"I even heard his snoring on occasion. Sometimes he had a pen in his mouth and when he fell asleep the pen would drop out, (and) this would cause him to wake up.

"On the first occasion... I raised this with my advocate, Gareth Leppan, who said if this happened again he would bring an application for the recusal of the judge... my co-accused and I noticed he was falling asleep again.

"Hence Leppan brought the application as instructed by us.

"The judge heard the application, but dismissed it," said Ngubo.

"I do not think that I had a fair trial as a result of the judge sleeping in court."

Ngubo's counsel, advocate Kobus Booyens SC, said there was also a reasonable possibility that accomplice witnesses were not telling the truth and the accused should have had the benefit of the doubt.

'Application was frivolous'

Opposing the application, State advocate Anton Steynberg said that in the absence of any allegation that the judge was actually asleep, the applicants failed to show that a failure of justice resulted.

Steynberg said the application was "an abuse of process" which would lead to an appeal with no prospect of success, alternatively that it was "frivolous or absurd, alternatively not made in good faith".

The judge said the cross-examination by Leppan was tedious and long and the application was frivolous and not made in good faith.


Tackler, how can you believe a murderer like Russel Ngubo? In any event the judges first-name "Vuka" means wake up.

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      #1801839874 - 09/12/06 08:32 AM

"Vuka" means "wake up", does it ?

Didn't his parents choose his name wisely? He must have been a dozy little narcoleptic right from birth, I suppose.

And the ANC "transformed" him into a dozy judge-president of KZN and booted out wide-awake white men...


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      #1801839897 - 09/12/06 12:15 PM

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"Vuka" means "wake up", does it ?

Didn't his parents choose his name wisely? He must have been a dozy little narcoleptic right from birth, I suppose.

And the ANC "transformed" him into a dozy judge-president of KZN and booted out wide-awake white men...


If you are willing to believe the likes of Russel Ngubo then why don't you believe the conniving Mbeki that he's rooted out corruption? Hmmmm...I see double standards here, tacky

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